Breeders Expo Europe (BEE)

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The fair WILL accept venomous snakes in the next fair..

This is copyed from e-mail correspondance with their office:

"Dear Miqe,

As you can image there are some restrictions that mainly mean a certain display system and a restriction of the possibility to buy venomous snakes only to people that agree they are aware of the risks etc. The main restriction is simple: The vendors have to ensure that every animal is in a separate box which can't be opened and that these boxes are displayed in a display system that does not allow access from the visitors' side so no visitor can put up a box, shake it, steal or or else. This means a double advantage for the vendor and the animals.

I'm working on a perfect, light-weight and practical display box in collaboration with a leading manufacturer. I will publish the regulations and solutions to match these on the web site soon. I like to announce this before Sunday so people in Houten have the chance to spread the word. I will send you the link. Some things are for sure: There will be such a room, we have found a way to fulfill everybody's needs, and the date will be 15. March. You can spread this information ... or if you want call it rumours ... ... but it will turn out to be real in the end."

My answer:
" Dear Lutz,

Good. Really good thinking..

That sounds like the rules in Sweden actually. A secured (taped) box into a kind of displaybox or in a displaystand with a lid on.

Maybe arranging, so that the sold animals is held by the seller or put into a special area until the show is over?

I would love to see a picture of such a displaybox.

Since I am going to Houten, I could (if you like) to bring a flyer if you would to make one. I have the possibility to print a hundred or so on my work tomorrow.."

And he´s respond to that:
"Hi Miqe,


Yes, that actually is the thought. The animals are not to be taken around on the expo ground but must leave the building directly when they have left the venomous room. There will be a storage facility or they can stay at the vendor's desk.


The display boxes aren't finished yet. They will be made out of light-weight thermostabile plastic and have an acrylic top lid to be opened only by the vendor. You can see the material at http://www.lanzo-herp.de. Dimension will be 80x60x20+ cm, so you can put two on common tables, transport your animals within etc. They will fit ideally for Braplast boxes and cost about 150 euros each (about 130 when taken about 10) plus shipping or taking them over at no additional expenses at the BEE. A light tube or heat tape comes extra. Meaning that if you use it for ten shows you secure your animals for 15 euros and never will be afraid again that somebody steals a box or whatever. Another way could be to use a larger terrarium sliding doors facing to the vendor so nobody will be forced to buy such a display box. I try to make some flyers tonight ... thanks for support. I just don't know the locality of the next show ... have to check back with the vets and need to calculate what will be the better locality in the long run."

http://www.breeders-expo.de/

Here is the flyer(pdf-file):

Flyer-snakeday.pdf

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Spread it if you like..

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Here is an update..

What do you think of the rules and the system that will be used?

http://www.breeders-expo.de/home-E/venomous-E.html

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Any opinions regarding the rules? I am really curious, I know..

[slippery42]

If I am reading this right it means that the vendor/seller will need to have the individual "tubs" containing each critter inside another larger viv or similar container and if you want to check out a particular snake you'll need the vendor to take it out...

If that's it then not too bad though it may slow things down.....

Hope that's what it is and I didn't misread the article????

[morbid]

If I am reading this right it means that the vendor/seller will need to have the individual "tubs" containing each critter inside another larger viv or similar container and if you want to check out a particular snake you'll need the vendor to take it out...

If that's it then not too bad though it may slow things down.....

Hope that's what it is and I didn't misread the article????

You have read it right. That is what it means..

[KyuCop]

Taken from Ratsnakesoundation forum today 25.04.2010:

To all those interested!

So far you came to know the BEE as a show with pleasant atmosphere, lots of friendly service and cooperation, and a high level of special knowledge. Unfortunately I must shift the show in Duesseldorf scheduled for the 1. Mai 2010 in date and location because the respective authorities not only make it impossible to keep this tradition alive, but the constraints issued this week also make the show impossible looking at any aspect of common sense, economy and also aspects of animal welfare. To hold the show despite of these constraints would mean substantial legal conflicts.

The Duesseldorf public order office has taken all measures to stop the BEE – apparently backed by the Duesseldorf political regime. In a first step the permission for the BEE unlawfully wasn't granted. I took the city to the administrative court to object. After a painful and complete defeat at the administrative court the authority had to accept it must issue the permission, and as a last desperate attempt has issued these constraints which, according to veterinarians, my lawyer, some vendors and others show the following attributes:

• partly they are simply unusual for events like this and show all signs of harassment without any functional background
• partly they have no juristical fundament
• partly they contradict themselves
• partly they are simply non-dischargeable, and of course not in the narrow time frame given by the show date and some deadlines set by the authority
• partly they contradict nationally and internationally accepted and proven knowledge of practical animal welfare
• partly they reduce animal welfare aspects to absurdity
• partly they cover aspects which are simply not in my responsibility as an organizer, partly I'm not even allowed to cover these aspects
• partly they unlawfully restrict the type and extent of the show

Since the respective veterinarian of the show indicated on the phone that he's not willing to discuss content-related aspects with me, it appears absolutely useless trying to convince him with arguments and facts. Obviously this was never a question of animal welfare but still is a question of rendering the show impossible via constraints and this way to find a legitimation for the unlawful behaviour which was determined by the administrative court. Any productive collaboration is made completely impossible on such a fundament. For this reason I will listen to recommendations made by my dialogue partners listed above and shift the show to another date and location which have yet to be determined.

I will possibly announce further information on the BEE homepage, further juristical steps seem possible. Due to the narrow time frame another summary proceeding at the administrative court is not promising.

I deeply regret this decision and would like to send you my apologies for any possible inconvenience you might have to face created by the acts of the city of Duesseldorf. To hold the show despite this situation would most probably mean to stress visitors and vendors with severe dangers and problems. Thanks for your cooperation. I'd appreciate if you could help spreading this news so noone will be going to Duesseldorf next Saturday. If others want to keep up with the development they can sign in for the newsletter.

www.breeders-expo.de/home-E.html

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Thanks for letting us know, Ari!!

I have blogged about it.. Link: http://terrariummorbidum.wordpress.com/ ... -location/